Comments on: America the Beautiful Day 28: The Normandy Prayer http://politicalfriendsblog.com/2011/11/america-the-beautiful-day-28-the-normandy-prayer/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=america-the-beautiful-day-28-the-normandy-prayer Political debate without the name calling Mon, 14 May 2012 11:34:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Gerrit http://politicalfriendsblog.com/2011/11/america-the-beautiful-day-28-the-normandy-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-3250 Gerrit Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:05:36 +0000 http://politicalfriendsblog.com/?p=2648#comment-3250 True, someone who defends the nation should be given all credit. However, I do think we should always remember that nations are different. Not every nation wants the same political system, not all nations want to be governed in the same way. For each political system, be it socialism or democracy, be it left or right wing, there are different interpretations. The democratic system here in Spain for example is different than the one in my native Belgium, and the socialist system in Cuba is different than the one in China. Some countries are very protective of their secularism (eg Turkey) while some other countries where the same religion is practised by the majority of people have enshrined some religious laws in their books. In my opinion it is up to each country to choose how to govern itself. No nation should invade another nation unless it is because of self protection. An army in that sense is needed to protect the people against attacks, but it is not needed in the sense to attack someone without being under threat. The Middle East is a good example: I think it is fully justified and normal that the Israeli army protects its people when the country was under attack from Lebanon ; however once the peace was restored (even if it was a ceasefire rather than diplomatic peace) the Israeli army should not just invade Lebanon when there is no threat coming from Lebanon at that moment. Sadly enough we indeed need a military (I hope to see the day that people get along well enough to no longer need it) but it should always be remembered an army is there to protect, not to attack. I don't think it is justified to invade a country to change its political system when that country was not attacking or threatening any other nation itself. The military should mainly/solely focus on defending the own nation and its citizens. True, someone who defends the nation should be given all credit. However, I do think we should always remember that nations are different. Not every nation wants the same political system, not all nations want to be governed in the same way. For each political system, be it socialism or democracy, be it left or right wing, there are different interpretations. The democratic system here in Spain for example is different than the one in my native Belgium, and the socialist system in Cuba is different than the one in China. Some countries are very protective of their secularism (eg Turkey) while some other countries where the same religion is practised by the majority of people have enshrined some religious laws in their books.

In my opinion it is up to each country to choose how to govern itself. No nation should invade another nation unless it is because of self protection. An army in that sense is needed to protect the people against attacks, but it is not needed in the sense to attack someone without being under threat. The Middle East is a good example: I think it is fully justified and normal that the Israeli army protects its people when the country was under attack from Lebanon ; however once the peace was restored (even if it was a ceasefire rather than diplomatic peace) the Israeli army should not just invade Lebanon when there is no threat coming from Lebanon at that moment.

Sadly enough we indeed need a military (I hope to see the day that people get along well enough to no longer need it) but it should always be remembered an army is there to protect, not to attack. I don’t think it is justified to invade a country to change its political system when that country was not attacking or threatening any other nation itself. The military should mainly/solely focus on defending the own nation and its citizens.

]]> By: Andy D http://politicalfriendsblog.com/2011/11/america-the-beautiful-day-28-the-normandy-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-3246 Andy D Fri, 09 Dec 2011 10:22:28 +0000 http://politicalfriendsblog.com/?p=2648#comment-3246 My intent with this post was to talk about FDR's prayer of support for our troops. I thought it was pretty incredible that he used a national radio broadcast to pray for them. I am not sure many politicians would do that today. It would be wonderful if there was no need for a military. However, as long as their are countries that are free, and countries that are not, there will be a need for a military. Someone who leaves their family, friends, and secure life to put that very life on the line to protect my family is a hero in my books. My intent with this post was to talk about FDR’s prayer of support for our troops. I thought it was pretty incredible that he used a national radio broadcast to pray for them. I am not sure many politicians would do that today.

It would be wonderful if there was no need for a military. However, as long as their are countries that are free, and countries that are not, there will be a need for a military. Someone who leaves their family, friends, and secure life to put that very life on the line to protect my family is a hero in my books.

]]> By: Gerrit http://politicalfriendsblog.com/2011/11/america-the-beautiful-day-28-the-normandy-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-3029 Gerrit Sun, 04 Dec 2011 01:12:50 +0000 http://politicalfriendsblog.com/?p=2648#comment-3029 I agree with your comments, maybe I misinterpretated the post. I am just saying that I wish there would be no need for a military and that someone engaging in a war is not a hero in my books. But I probably misinterpretated the post to some extent. I agree with your comments, maybe I misinterpretated the post. I am just saying that I wish there would be no need for a military and that someone engaging in a war is not a hero in my books. But I probably misinterpretated the post to some extent.

]]> By: Pack04 http://politicalfriendsblog.com/2011/11/america-the-beautiful-day-28-the-normandy-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-3005 Pack04 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:36:22 +0000 http://politicalfriendsblog.com/?p=2648#comment-3005 Gerrit, I agree that war should not be celebrated as in the cheering for the death of others. Celebrated for the results yes. (I will celebrate and be glad for the American Revolution) Respected for it's dirty finality yes. Remembered for its starting and ending for sure. Should we celebrate and make a hero the person that kills the most people? No, nor do I think we [USA] do. To summarily say never is wrong. Heroes are people rushing into burning buildings, jumping on a grenade to save 20 people. People walking away from their families to put their lives in danger to help/rescue others are heroes. I would love a world where everybody gets along so a military does not need to exist. Until people figure out how to not covet what others have, a military will be needed. To bitch about people celebrating a war on a post that is not about celebrating war but about a speech/prayer asking for the people of the US to ask God for assistance in their endeavor to end conquest, to liberate and to return to the haven of home is wrong. Gerrit, I agree that war should not be celebrated as in the cheering for the death of others. Celebrated for the results yes. (I will celebrate and be glad for the American Revolution) Respected for it’s dirty finality yes. Remembered for its starting and ending for sure.

Should we celebrate and make a hero the person that kills the most people? No, nor do I think we [USA] do.
To summarily say never is wrong. Heroes are people rushing into burning buildings, jumping on a grenade to save 20 people. People walking away from their families to put their lives in danger to help/rescue others are heroes.

I would love a world where everybody gets along so a military does not need to exist. Until people figure out how to not covet what others have, a military will be needed.

To bitch about people celebrating a war on a post that is not about celebrating war but about a speech/prayer asking for the people of the US to ask God for assistance in their endeavor to end conquest, to liberate and to return to the haven of home is wrong.

]]> By: Gerrit http://politicalfriendsblog.com/2011/11/america-the-beautiful-day-28-the-normandy-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-2963 Gerrit Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:32:53 +0000 http://politicalfriendsblog.com/?p=2648#comment-2963 War should never be celebrated IMO, and soldiers should never be considered heroes. The moment the world accepts that diversity is a natural given to mankind and will stop enforcing their own values on others using violence, that is something to truly pray for (for those who believe) and to celebrate. The military of any nation, does more harm than good. It is sad a military has to exist, as it is the living proof of how people can still not peacefully live side by side. To celebrate this sounds like a paradox to me. That said, it is good the US does not have obligatory military draft. In most of Europe, this has only been abolished in the recent two decades. War should never be celebrated IMO, and soldiers should never be considered heroes. The moment the world accepts that diversity is a natural given to mankind and will stop enforcing their own values on others using violence, that is something to truly pray for (for those who believe) and to celebrate. The military of any nation, does more harm than good. It is sad a military has to exist, as it is the living proof of how people can still not peacefully live side by side. To celebrate this sounds like a paradox to me.

That said, it is good the US does not have obligatory military draft. In most of Europe, this has only been abolished in the recent two decades.

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